‘The Waggle’ is the official podcast of the Canadian Football League, co-hosted by Gemini nominated broadcaster Donnovan Bennett and Toronto Argonauts’ linebacker Henoc Muamba.

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Episode 358: March madness + Jason Maas interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: With March upon us, Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett recap some of the madness happening in U SPORTS while proposing their ideas to create even more madness in the playoffs for university football. The guys also react to CFL.ca’s list of players picked to win the Most Outstanding Canadian award through the 2028 CFL season and sit down with Montreal Alouettes head coach Jason Maas.

Diversity Is Strength Conversations: Progress and pain for women in sports

EPISODE OVERVIEW: In honour of International Women’s Day, we reflect on many of the incredible and positive steps forward for women in professional sport, while also recognizing the unfortunate reality of setbacks still faced by many on and off the field. Discussing their experiences and offering their perspectives are Saroya Tinker of the PWHL, Carolyn Cody of the BC Lions and Olympic figure skating Gold Medallist Gabrielle Daleman.

Episode 357: Donnovan’s definitive rankings + Mike O’Shea interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: After last week’s heated debate over CFL.ca’s Way Too Early Power Rankings, Donnovan Bennett comes with his take on where each team currently stands. Plus, we talk the start of Combine season including interesting interview questions prospects get. We’re also joined by the CFL’s current longest-tenured head coach, Mike O’Shea of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

Episode 356: Henoc hangs ’em up + Rick Campbell interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett reflect on the best moments of Henoc’s football journey after he announced the end of his 13-year pro career that saw him play in both the CFL and NFL. The guys also call up BC Lions co-general manager and head coach Rick Campbell to chat about the team’s outlook for the 2024 CFL season and get into a spicy debate over CFL.ca’s “Way Too Early” Power Rankings.

Diversity Is Strength Conversations: Black Excellence in Canadian sport

EPISODE OVERVIEW: In honour of Black History Month, Diversity is Strength Conversations shines the spotlight on the issues of impact, representation and opportunity for Black athletes in Canada. To provide their unique perspectives and insights, we’re joined by three-time CFL Most Outstanding Canadian and Canadian Football Hall of Famer Jon Cornish, as well as Georgette Reed, a 17-time Canadian track-and-field champion and the daughter of CFL legend George Reed.


Episode 355: Grey Cup futures + Scott Milanovich interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett look at every team’s Grey Cup odds as the flurry of Free Agency transactions cools down around the league. They also give their opinions on which teams might be flying under the radar heading into the 2024 CFL season. The guys then sit down with Hamilton Tiger-Cats’ head coach Scott Milanovich to discuss their upcoming season and how the returning head coach plans to approach his first season in The Hammer.


Episode 354: The Free Agency frenzy

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett break down the first day of 2024 Free Agency across the CFL, recapping all of the biggest moves across the league. They discuss which remaining big-name free agents could be signing soon and analyze each team’s roster as it stands now for the 2024 season.


Episode 353: The crazy communication window

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Marshall Ferguson and Donnovan Bennett break down a frantic week of news leading up to CFL Free Agency, including a couple of key players returning to the Blue Bombers, a shuffling of the running back market across the league and some major departures for the Argonauts.

Episode 352: Free Agency Predictions + Kyle Walters

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Donnovan Bennett and Marshall Ferguson make their 2024 Free Agency predictions for the biggest names in the CFL yet to sign with a team for the upcoming season. The guys also look ahead to the NFL’s Super Bowl game and sit down with Winnipeg Blue Bombers general manager Kyle Walters.


Episode 351: Expansion franchises w/ Commissioner Ambrosie + Shawn Burke

EPISODE OVERVIEW: This week we check in with CFL Commissioner Randy Ambrosie to get his retrospective on 2023, his take on 2024 and an update on a potential 10th team. Later, we speak with the GM of the most recent expansion franchise, Shawn Burke of the Ottawa REDBLACKS. Burke has been busy ahead of free agency to turn things around after a disappointing 2023 in the nation’s capital.

EPISODE RUNDOWN: Intro (0:00), NFL Playoffs (3:15), quarterback Dru Brown traded (5:30), Chris Streveler suitors? (7:45), Commissioner Randy Ambrosie interview (9:15), Shawn Burke pre-Free Agency moves (24:30), Shawn Burke interview (26:45)


Episode 350: The new-look Edmonton Elks

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett break down a series of signings and trades across the CFL, most notably with McLeod Bethel-Thompson returning to the league with the Edmonton Elks and Kurleigh Gittens Jr. heading along with him to Edmonton while Jake Ceresna joins the Argonauts. The guys break down how Bethel-Thompson’s arrival impacts Tre Ford, the Elks outlook for the 2024 CFL season, and debate potential landing spots for currently unsigned quarterbacks such as Dru Brown, Taylor Cornelius, who was recently waived by the Elks, and Chris Streveler, who is rumoured to be interested in a CFL return.


Episode 349: A very Waggle Holiday + Corey Mace interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: In the 2023 holiday edition of The Waggle, Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett give out a Christmas gift to each CFL team going into the new year and reminisce about their favourite moments from the 2023 season. The guys also preview their most anticipated games on the 2024 CFL schedule and catch up with newly-appointed head coach of the Saskatchewan Roughriders, Corey Mace.


Episode 348: Running it back + Ryan Phillips interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett break down a slew of signings across the CFL including the Montreal Alouettes bringing back multiple key veteran pieces from their Grey Cup championship team and the BC Lions running it back next season with their entire coaching staff from 2023. The guys also discuss every team’s single-most important issue to address in free agency and sit down with BC Lions’ defensive coordinator and newly appointed assistant head coach Ryan Phillips.


Episode 347: The CFL coaching carousel + Shawn Lemon interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett discuss some of the major coaching changes in the CFL so far as the off-season begins. They cover Corey Mace being hired as the head coach in Saskatchewan, a new offensive coordinator in Ottawa, and a major shake-up in the Hamilton front office. The guys also sit down with three-time Grey Cup champion Shawn Lemon to talk about the celebrations in Montreal and to discuss some of the most intriguing free agents set to hit the market in February.


Episode 346: CFL Awards Exclusive!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett sat down with some of the league’s best at the CFL Awards to get their thoughts and reaction in these Waggle-exclusive interviews.

EPISODE RUNDOWN: Qwan’tez Stiggers – Most Outstanding Rookie (0:00); Mathieu Betts – Most Outstanding Defensive Player (8:55); Javon Leake – Most Outstanding Special Teams Player (14:53 ); Dejon Allen – Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman (22:43); Brady Oliveira – Most Outstanding Canadian (26:59); Chad Kelly – Most Outstanding Player (31:05).


Episode 345: A game for the ages

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett break down a historic 110th Grey Cup game that will not be forgotten anytime soon, as the underdog Montreal Alouettes pulled off one of the most miraculous upsets in the history of the CFL.

Episode 344: Grey Cup media day exclusive!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett sit down with key players on both sides of the ball from the Montreal Alouettes and the Winnipeg Blue Bombers for almost two hours of interviews before the two teams face off in the 110th Grey Cup in Hamilton.

EPISODE RUNDOWN: Demerio Houston and Brandon Alexander (0:00); Darnell Sankey and Shawn Lemon (18:16); Jackson Jeffcoat and Sergio Castillo (40:34); James Letcher Jr. and Austin Mack (55:41); Stanley Bryant and Jermarcus Hardrick (1:04:45); William Stanback and Tyson Philpot (1:21:56); Nic Demski and Kenny Lawler (1:34:40).


Episode 343: Chasing a dynasty

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett break down all the action from the Division Finals this past weekend and look ahead to the 110th Grey Cup between the Winnipeg Blue Bombers and Montreal Alouettes at Tim Hortons Field in Hamilton.


Episode 342: One win away + Marshall Ferguson interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Luca Celebre look ahead to the Division Final match ups as the Grey Cup Playoffs roll on in the Canadian Football League. The guys also look back on a pair of thrilling Division Semi-Final games, debate where Bo Levi Mitchell will be playing football in 2024 and deep dive all four starting quarterbacks who will be playing this Saturday with the CFL’s resident quarterback expert Marshall Ferguson.

Episode 341: Playoff preview + Marshall Ferguson interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett preview all of the action coming up in the Eastern and Western Semi-Finals this weekend and break down the quarterbacks from each game alongside TSN broadcaster and CFL.ca contributor Marshall Ferguson. The guys also make their early picks for Most Valuable Player and Most Valuable Canadian of the 110th Grey Cup.


Episode 340: Shakeup in Saskatchewan + Dave Naylor interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett react to the Saskatchewan Roughriders’ decision to not renew Craig Dickenson’s contract as head coach of the team while extending the contract of general manager Jeremy O’Day. The guys get expert analysis from TSN football insider Dave Naylor about why the team went in the direction that they did. The guys also look ahead to the final week of the CFL regular season, which includes a playoff preview between the Hamilton Tiger-Cats and Montreal Alouettes.

Episode 339: Big dubs! + Dominique Rhymes interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett recap a week of CFL football that proved crucial in solidifying the playoff picture around the league. Plus, with the announcement of flag football’s inclusion in the 2028 Summer Olympics, the guys assemble their dream team of CFL players for the Canadian Men’s side. Finally, we look ahead to all of the Week 20 action, including a season-defining matchup between the Roughriders and Stampeders. Plus, we sit down with BC Lions’ standout receiver Dominique Rhymes.

Episode 338: Game of the year + James Butler interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett recap what was the game of the year in Week 18 when Winnipeg pulled off a come-from-behind overtime victory against BC to take control of first place in the West Division. The guys also sit down with Hamilton Tiger-Cats running back James Butler as he prepares for a revenge game against his old team. The guys also give their picks for Most Outstanding Rookie, debate All-Star selections at the QB and OL positions and look ahead to all of the Week 19 action and the playoff implications that come with it.


Episode 337: All in on All-Star + Austin Mack interview

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett get you set for CFL All-Star voting to open by making theirAll-Star picks at defensive line, running back, and defensive back as well as interviewing Montreal star receiver Austin Mack! The guys also play a game of guess the artist with songs from Green Day and Carrie Underwood leading up to the Grey Cup Festival in Hamilton. They also preview all of the action coming up in Week 18 and remember the legendary George Reed.

Episode 336: Truth and Reconciliation + The Halluci Nation

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett look forward to Week 17 in the CFL and specifically discuss the various initiatives around the league taking place in honour of the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation. The guys also break down some CFL strategies being implemented in the NFL, make their picks for CFL All-Star, and sit down with The Halluci Nation before they play halftime at the BC Lions’ game this weekend.

Diversity Is Strength Conversations: Reconciliation through sport

EPISODE OVERVIEW: In our fifth ‘Diversity is Strength Conversations’ episode this year, we talk about the Truth & Reconciliation Commissions ‘Calls to Action’ and dive into how sports can play a role in that. To help us with this, we are joined by Kevin T. Hart, Amy Shipley and Brian Chrupalo.

Episode 335: CFL classics and Power Rankings + Tim White interview!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett recap a week of classic CFL games from Week 15 and debate The Waggle’s CFL power rankings as we near the end of the regular season. The guys also sit down with Hamilton Tiger-Cats’ receiver Tim White and discuss their early candidates for the MOP and MOC awards.


Episode 334: Pushing toward the playoffs + Tre Ford interview!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett look ahead to Week 15 in the CFL and all of the playoff implications that come with it, including the East Division potentially being decided this Friday! The guys also sit down with Edmonton Elks quarterback Tre Ford and rank the top-three catches from the middle third of the CFL season.

Episode 333: A thriller in Riderville + QB tier lists

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett break down all of the action from an OK Tire Labour Day Weekend to remember, including a thrilling upset victory by the Saskatchewan Roughriders. Plus, the guys make their tiered lists ranking the relationship status of every starting quarterback in the CFL with their respective teams and look ahead to all of the Week 14 action including two Week 13 rematches!

Episode 332: Looking ahead to OK Tire Labour Day Weekend + catching up w/ Henry Burris

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett preview what is sure to be an exciting Labour Day Weekend, look back on Week 12 where Edmonton notably snapped its home losing streak and sit down with one of the greatest to ever play on Labour Day — someone who has played in every Labour Day match-up — Henry Burris himself!

Episode 331: Sunday night thriller, our top-5 receivers + exclusive Amar Doman interview!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett look back on an exhilarating Week 11 in the CFL including a battle of celebrations between Alexander Hollins and Samuel Emilus in a Sunday night thriller to wrap up last week’s slate of games. The guys also draft their top-5 receivers from the upper echelon of CFL teams, analyze a do-or-die stretch of the schedule for the Montreal Alouettes and look ahead to all of the Week 12 matchups. Finally, BC Lions’ owner Amar Doman drops by for an exclusive interview.


Episode 330: Separating pretenders from contenders + exclusive Nathan Rourke interview!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and TSN/BarDown’s Luca Celebre separate the CFL’s cream of the crop from the rest of the pack as they break down all of the action from Week 10, give their power rankings of the top 3 teams in the CFL right now, and look ahead to an exciting Week 11! Plus, Henoc and Donnovan Bennett sit down with Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback and former BC Lion Nathan Rourke during his first NFL preseason.


Episode 329: Big statement in Bomber Land (+ Dustin Crum!)

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett recap what they describe as an “eventful” week in the CFL, with a new team taking the top spot in the CFL Power Rankings, some notable names departing their spot on the sidelines and others making their long-awaited return! The guys also preview the games next week, including Tre Ford’s first start of the season for the Elks, and chat with the King of the Crumback, “Dusty Football” himself, Dustin Crum before he takes on Henoc’s Argonauts this week.


Episode 328: Shake-ups in Edmonton and a Thurs. night must watch

EPISODE OVERVIEW: We recap Touchdown Atlantic, changes on offence in Edmonton, Bo Levi Mitchell going back on the six-game injured list and look ahead to a clash of titans in the West on Thursday night.


Episode 327: Setting sail for Touchdown Atlantic

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc and Donnovan look ahead to an exciting slate of games in Week 8, highlighted by Touchdown Atlantic in Halifax this Saturday! The guys also look back on The Crumback 2.0 as Ottawa pulled out another overtime victory, Henoc discusses what life was like back in his university days at St. Francis Xavier University and Donnovan and Henoc participate in a Nova Scotian-themed game of trivia!

Episode 326: You different, dawg! + Nic Demski

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc and Donnovan recap one of the most exciting weeks of CFL football in recent memory! They break down “The Crumback” in Ottawa and react to one of the most improbable plays you’ll ever see by the Saskatchewan Roughriders, as well as possibly the catch of the year by Toronto Argonauts receiver Damonte Coxie. The guys also break down the quarterback situation across the league and debate who holds the title of best running back in the CFL. They wrap it all up with an exclusive interview with Winnipeg Blue Bombers receiver Nic Demski!


Episode 325: Quarter-season questions, + Bobby Dubeau!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc and Donnovan take a look at the best of the best after the first quarter of the CFL season, including the best catch so far and the best receiver in the league to this point. The guys also send love to Jeremiah Masoli after his unfortunate Achilles injury, highlight some of the rules that make Canadian football great and catch up with Guinness World Record holder and newly-appointed CFL legend Bobby Dubeau!


Episode 324: Canada, we lit!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc and Donnovan react to the REDBLACKS getting their first win of the season behind quarterback Tyrie Adams’ first CFL start and Vernon Adams’ six-interception outing against the Argos. They also look back at some of the best jerseys in CFL history and separate the contenders from the pretenders as we approach the quarter-way mark of the season.

Episode 323: Counting down to Canada Day

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc and Donnovan look ahead to Canada Day in the CFL with a head-to-head draft of their top-5 Canadians in the league! The guys also debate how far the Lions can go this season after a dominant road win in Winnipeg and evaluate what it takes to develop a top tier quarterback in the CFL.

Episode 322: Questions at QB?

EPISODE OVERVIEW: After LL Cool J rocked BC Place for the Lions’ home opener, Henoc Muamba and Donnovan Bennett discuss their top musical performances in CFL history. Plus, the guys call out that teammate who celebrates a play a little bit too hard when they’re losing and give their thoughts on a potential quarterback controversy brewing in Edmonton.

Diversity Is Strength Conversations: Sports for everyone

EPISODE OVERVIEW: For our Pride Month episode of Diversity is Strength Conversations, Donnovan Bennett is joined by former pro hockey player Brock McGillis and commissioner of the National Gay Flag Football League, Joel Horton. In this episode we discuss a lack of inclusion in sports and how to make them a more welcoming place for all.

Episode 321: Early season fireworks + a Chad Kelly exclusive interview!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Henoc Muamba and CFL.ca’s Kristina Costabile give their overreaction power rankings after a wild week in the CFL. They also debate which rivalry is the best in the league, and look at some of the antics players around the CFL have been getting up to in their free time. Plus, Donnovan and Henoc sit down with Toronto Argonauts’ quarterback Chad Kelly for an exclusive interview.


Episode 320: We back, baby!

EPISODE OVERVIEW: Welcome to the 2023 CFL season! To kick things off Donnovan and Henoc are talking TSN’s Top 50 Players (and one notable omission) and introducing our new segments “That Guy” and “Dawg of the Week”.


Diversity Is Strength Conversations Episode 3: Asian Culture in Canadian Football 

EPISODE OVERVIEW: In recognition of Asian Heritage Month, CFL on TSN’s Farhan Lalji, former O-lineman Obby Khan and football official Henry Chiu join Donnovan Bennett to share their experiences in Canada and in football.


Diversity Is Strength Conversations Episode 2: Changing the Sports Landscape  

EPISODE OVERVIEW: To celebrate International Women’s Day, we speak with three of the many women doing great work around the CFL: TSN’s Kate Beirness, BC Lions defensive assistant coach Tanya Henderson and the Edmonton Elks’ in-game host Ashley Callingbull.


Diversity Is Strength Conversations: Black Leadership in Football 

EPISODE OVERVIEW: In football there is plenty of Black representation on the field of play, but seemingly less so on the sidelines and in the front offices. To honour and celebrate Black History Month, we spoke with three former players who are now leaders OFF the field: President of football operations and head coach for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, Orlondo Steinauer, defensive coordinator and defensive line coach for the Toronto Argonauts, Corey Mace, and Edmonton Elks assistant general manager, Geroy Simon.

EPISODE RUNDOWN: (0:30) Orlondo Steinauer, head coach a president of football operations, Hamilton Tiger-Cats; (19:10) Corey Mace, defensive coordinator and defensive line coach, Toronto Argonauts; (42:00) Geroy Simon, assistant general manager, Edmonton Elks.


The Waggle Archive

Want to catch up on old episodes of the podcast? You can find previous seasons below:

2022
2021
2020
2019
2018 and 2016